LGBT Pride Month, held each June, is nothing to be proud of. In this podcast, Scott Brown and Jason Dohm discuss how deviant sexual behavior has gone from being abhorred to being widely celebrated in a mere fifty years. Not only have the anti-sodomy laws in most states been repealed, but leading corporations are embracing the LGBT agenda in their internal policies and publicly promoting it during Pride Month.  

Looking to God’s word, they explain that the shameful celebration of this deviancy is condemned by God and a clear sign of His judgment. Yet there’s hope for those caught in this wicked lifestyle who repent of their sins—just as there was in Paul’s time: “And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Cor. 6:11). 

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Welcome to the Church and Family Life podcast. Church and Family Life exists to proclaim the sufficiency of Scripture today. We're here to talk about a sufficient Scripture to understand this radical movement of homosexuality across the whole world, and we're now right in the middle of what has come to be called Pride Month, Pride Month where we're supposed to take pride in this movement. And what we want to do is talk around this issue, but particularly what does the Scripture say about it? So Jason, since June has been designated as Pride Month It's actually the month where the shameful is celebrated Yeah, Scott.

There's nothing to be proud of here. We had this brief period of time where acceptance of homosexuality was required. You had to accept it. But now we sprinted through that. We're out of that period of time now, and we're into a period of time where there's an absolute demand that it be celebrated.

So acceptance is not enough. You have to stand up and cheer or else there is no declining an invitation to this party. But we want to say we can't. We shouldn't and we can't. Why can't we?

Well, because it's no service to the community that is celebrating to board the Pride Month train and celebrate alongside them. The thing that they're saying that they're proud of is something that brings tremendous devastation into their lives. So it's no service to this community at all. It's actually quite cruel to accept or celebrate it because destruction is being brought into their lives and we would pluck as many people out of this destruction as we can. Why?

Because we've been plucked out of destruction ourselves. We've been posting scripture on sodomy every day so far on this month of June, Pride Month on Instagram and also on Facebook. But right now we're living in a culture where we're actually required to celebrate sodomy. Even this last week it was astonishing the president ordered the rainbow flag, the gay pride flag to be put in center point center place with two American flags on the side of it on the White House. I just thought that was astonishing.

But I'd just like to give a little bit of a flow of history quickly to where we are today and then we want to jump into the Scriptures. So First of all, there was a time where every state in the United States had anti-sodomy laws. Today, only 16 states actually still do have anti-sodomy laws. North Carolina is one of them. In 1952, the American Psychological Association listed homosexuality as a sociopathic personality disturbance.

In 1953, this was the year I was born, President Eisenhower signed an executive order banning homosexuals from working for the federal government, considering that they were a security threat to the United States. In 1962, Illinois was the first state to repeal its anti-sodomy laws. In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality from the list of mental disorders. The next year, when I was in college, Textbooks were changed. They had to change the, they had to throw away the old textbooks, the sociology textbooks, dealing with homosexuality and changing from a deviant sexual mental illness to something that was normal.

We were being brought into the brave new world. Yeah, right. Yeah, it was my generation that did this, for sure. 1981, the discovery of AIDS. Fast forward to 2015, the Obergefell decision by the Supreme Court.

And then even today, you have a rising mental illness among the sodomite community. I just read this last week that there are 20 million new sexually transmitted diseases every year, mostly homosexual. I don't know if all these numbers are right. Suicide is four times higher in the homosexual community than in other communities. And so, you know, this manifestation really of evil, I think it's very important that we use the biblical language.

We like to use the word gay. There's nothing gay about it. It's a co-opting, it's a softening of the actual reality. The Bible uses a word that we should use, sodomy, to condemn it. So anyway, I think we're here to try to bring some biblical coordinates to this.

Well, and to turn the world right side up again. When the language changes, it's an attempt to turn the world upside down, meaning to take reality and to refashion and reshape it after somebody else's thoughts. Scott, listen to Jeremiah 6, 15. So what we're finding out is this is not new. It goes back to Jeremiah before.

But Jeremiah 6, 15 says this. "'Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No, they were not at all ashamed, nor did they know how to blush. So if you read George Orwell, 1984, you get the change of languaging to turn the world upside down. You call black white and you call white black and you do it a million times until you make people acknowledge your new reality or else.

And that's what's happening. Yeah, it's an inverting of reality, even in terms of the way bodies are created and functioned. It's a reversal of the natural order. So we want to just walk through a number of passages of Scripture that speak to this. And the first one really just declares that both the New and the Old Testament condemn sodomy.

First Timothy 1.8, But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly, for the sinners, for the unholy and profane, for the murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers for manslayers for fornicators for sodomites for kidnappers. So can I read a verse from the same chapter? So this is the same author, the Apostle Paul, the same letter for Timothy, the same chapter. Chapter 1, chapter 115, Paul says, this is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am chief. Two really important things here.

Paul's not saying, I'm a good person, shame on all you bad people. Paul calls himself the chief of sinners. The second thing that's so important in this verse is that he acknowledges that Jesus came into the world to save sinners. He came to save us from the penalty and power of sin, not to minimize sin, certainly not to celebrate sin, but to save us from sin. Yeah, and as we get further in the Scriptures, we know that people are saved from the sin of sodomy And adultery and covetousness and all kinds of things, Jesus Christ saved sinners.

That's the good news. Here's some more bad news. Leviticus 18, sodomites are vomited out of the land. It's a lose-lose proposition. The sodomite community cannot prosper.

Now there's so many ways we could say that. Psychologically, we already know that, but even even replicating of the sodomite community doesn't replicate the way that the natural function replicates. But here's here's Leviticus 18 22, you shall not lie with a male as with a woman it is an abomination nor shall you mate with any animal to defile yourself But here's Leviticus 18, 22, before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. Do not defile yourselves with any of these things for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you, for the land is defiled." And there's this language in the Bible of being vomited out of the land for those who commit what God calls our abominations.

Scott, the people who are celebrating consider us to be homophobes. I am, but not in the way that they say, meaning they think I hate them, I don't hate them. They think I fear them. We're not afraid. Here's what we're afraid of.

We're afraid of what scripture says that God does, how God brings judgment on a people that accept, promote, celebrate things that he hates, things that dishonor him. So don't think that we won't be swept away in the judgments. That's not how it works. Careful students of the Bible know that the pain comes to everyone when God says, enough, especially when his people are silent, when they should be actually upholding what he said. Yeah, amen.

Here's another. There's no such thing as sodomite marriage. In 2015, we were told there was, and by our legal system, and it was a lie. Ephesians 5, 22 to 33 makes it very clear. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother, that's a male and a female, and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.

So this takes us all the way back to the creation narrative in the first two chapters of the Bible. In Malachi 2, which is really about the harming of marriage, in Malachi 2, God calls marriage my holy institution, which I love. What do we learn from that? We learn that marriage, the definition of marriage isn't up for grabs. It's not a human institution to be defined and then redefined by humans.

God says, that's my institution and I love it. And the whole point of the chapter is don't touch it, don't mess with it, don't defile it. So it really is the the peak of human pride to take God's institution and to say no it's not this anymore it's that. It's not yours to rename, redefine. Amen.

Here's another, Romans 1, 1 through verse 32, and particularly focusing on the last section in Romans 1. Assademites are under the wrath of God. They are presently, not just waiting, yes, waiting, but the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven. Is being revealed from heaven. Can I selectively pluck a few verses out of Romans chapter 1 and read them, comment on them?

So this is Romans 1, starting in verse 18, for the wrath of God, God's fury, is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness." Now, skipping down to 21, because although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened." Skipping to 24, therefore, God also gave them up to uncleanness in the lust of their hearts to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions, for even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise, also, the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." So these are the things that are being celebrated now, and there's been a whole shift of language. This is something we should be proud of.

No, actually, Romans chapter 1, God calls it vile passions and calls it lusts, like sinful lusts that are being indulged. Now the normal, average evangelical says, wow, we better stop doing that or we'll be judged. The argument that Paul is making in Romans chapter 1 is this is judgment. When you don't acknowledge God as God and you're not thankful, he gives you over to a darkened mind, and you start to think that things that are shameful ought to be celebrated with a month. This is actually a sign of judgment.

So there may be more destruction to follow, but this is actually a sign that we're under the judgment of God for rebelling against him in many ways up until this point. Here's another one, DEI. Every major corporation and the corporate boards have ordered their corporations to operate by diversity, equity, inclusion, which means celebrating homosexuality. The wrath of God is being revealed through corporate boards into our whole commercial system. And This is the shameful part of it.

Corporate boards should be shamed for doing such things on their watch for their shareholders because the Bible makes it clear it won't go that well for the shareholders. They will be vomited out of the land. The last one, 1 Corinthians 6, 9 and 10, sodomites are often set free. Sodomites are often set free. That was what you see in the church in Corinth.

Corinth was a very corrupt society. It was a pornographic society. And in that church were people who used to be sodomites, but they were set free, they were washed, They were clean. Sodomites can be set free. I'll just read it.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, and either fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers, nor sodomites nor homosexuals nor thieves, nor covetous nor drunkards nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God, And this is the best part. And such were some of you. You're not anymore. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of God.

All sin can be cleansed. Scott, you've probably heard me say this many times, my favorite author outside the Bible, J.C. Ryle, says this all the time in his writings over and over again, your best friend is the one that tells you the most truth. This is why we won't celebrate these things in the month of June, because you're no friend to that community. What they need to be told is, God is great and glorious, God hates sin, this is sin, But that isn't the end of the story.

The cross says that God is not only angry against sin, but that he wasn't content to leave us in our sin. He sent the Lord Jesus Christ from heaven to live that perfect life and to lay down his life for sinners to break the penalty and the power of sin in their life. So Paul writes 1 Corinthians 6, having seen this with his own eyes, all these different categories of sin but the penalty and the power of that being broken in their lives and they were washed and cleansed and brought in as sons and daughters. That's what we want to say to the homosexual community. You can be actually be brought in as a son or daughter but you must repent and believe the gospel.

And what does God do with your sin? He separates you from it as far as the east is from the west. The Bible says that he plunges it into the bottom of the sea. He throws it behind his back, and he stomps it with his feet. That's what God does for all sinners, and that's such a blessing, such a joy, that God is kind to rescue us from the harm.

And Jesus said, there's a broad road that leads to destruction, and many are on it. There's a narrow way that leads to life. So Christians should say, oh, another point where the Bible is proven true. This month, where people are on a broad road, everyone's celebrating together, only it's not everyone, but those who are celebrating together are on a broad road and we just wanna stop and say, it's leading to destruction, you have to get off this road, there's a narrow road that leads to life and Jesus Christ is the door to that road. Yes, indeed.

We heard an interview with Tom Askel by a major news outlet this week. Astounding. Was it great? We highly recommend it. We're gonna leave a link to it at the end of this show here, but he was making comments about the death penalty for homosexuals, which the Old Testament advocates.

But he had very, very clear, very carefully stated biblical propositions. And so we just are here to recommend people listen to it. It was really, really good. It was remarkable. And he really took the confessional view of the Old Testament law and explained it in really clear terms.

So I was really grateful for that. There's a lot of law in that interview and there's a lot of gospel in that interview. If you can carve out a half an hour to watch it, it's worth your time. Yeah, okay, Jason, thanks. My pleasure.

Okay, So thank you for joining us on the Church and Family Life podcast. I think what we want to say is that this movement of Pride Month is an expression of the judgment of God upon us, its current judgment upon our culture. And the only answer is the righteousness of Jesus Christ. So thanks for joining us. Hope to see you next time.

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